Topsites?

[Mikey]

I think FU should setup a topsites module, that way people can promote their forums on FU, and FU can get promoted on those people's forums.

[Tyler]

Who would be voting for these topsites, members, admins?

[SoftWareRevue]

/me waits for more information

[Mikey]

Random people.

[SoftWareRevue]

So, is there a plugin?

What are you talking about?

Don't get me wrong, I think it would be a good idea.

Whatever that is. :D

[Mikey]

UHm......... let me look around vborg.

[Mikey]

it took me 3 seconds to find it.

http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showthread.php?t=98646

[Jamesc]

Loooks good to me

[adb22791]

Could be pretty interesting. Probably worth taking a look at.

[westcan]

I concur!

[Jan]

I suggest we leave that for a year or so ;)

[labalaba]

I need to post so I can see what editing is like.

Don't ban me! :bawling:

[Mikey]

Ban Him!

[Jan]

/me bans labalaba :evilb:

[Mikey]

so where are da topsites?

[SoftWareRevue]

so where are da topsites?Up there ^^^^^^ (http://www.forumuniversity.com/campus/toplist.php)


Now to get it configured. :party:

[Mikey]

And it's there now.

bitchin'.

[SoftWareRevue]

Prolly gonna need some rules and content and description. :(

[writespeak]

Prolly gonna need some rules and content and description. :(

The easy way to handle it would be to write a DMOZ-style description of how descriptions should read and then have the entries approved before they're posted. This would allow the descriptions to be edited if necessary and would prevent it from becoming a free-for-all spam directory.

I know a DMOZ editor who could help you with that. ;)

Lois

[SoftWareRevue]

I like the DMOZ bit.

But, let's address functionality first. As that may determine any guidelines needed.

It's nice that this product includes a link to the site. However, it is my understanding that, for SEO purposes, it would need to have the URL in the link's Title tag. Barring that, maybe we could copy a text link into the text portion.

[SoftWareRevue]

I had more to say. But I got called away.

Now I'm back.

That ain't no jack.

But still got nuthin to say.

[writespeak]

I like the DMOZ bit.

:whistle:

But, let's address functionality first. As that may determine any guidelines needed.

It's nice that this product includes a link to the site. However, it is my understanding that, for SEO purposes, it would need to have the URL in the link's Title tag. Barring that, maybe we could copy a text link into the text portion.

I don't follow you. Do you mean the link's anchor text? For SEO, we want keywords in the anchor text, but for clarity, we want the forum title.

But still got nuthin to say.

Thanks for letting us know. ;)

Lois

[writespeak]

...it is my understanding that, for SEO purposes, it would need to have the URL in the link's Title tag.

I thought you were confusing the terms for the page title tag (very important for SEO) and the link anchor text (also very important for SEO), but now I think you're talking about the link title tags that (if used) pop up when you hover over a link. :doh:

Link title tags appear not to help with SEO. Here are some quotes:

SEO on the link TITLE tag- is it worth it? (http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:QERwkEJas1YJ:www.marsjupiter.com/index2.php%3Foption%3Dcom_content%26do_pdf%3D1%26i d%3D133+%22link+title+tag%22+SEO&hl=en&client=firefox-a)

The current wisdom is that Google takes no account of these tags and other Search Engines put very little weight on them.

WebProWorld forum posts (http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:_Y4xg27pWmMJ:www.webproworld.com/viewtopic.php%3Fp%3D102006+%22link+title+tag%22+SE O&hl=en&client=firefox-a)

...no major search engine indexes title attritubes on links and that adding these is a waste of your time.

...my experience is also like your one: Google doesn't payany attention to title anchor attribute or it's influence is insignificant.

A 12-step article on SEO published all over the place states that link title tags should be used for SEO. However, the same article contains the advice to use keyword meta tags. Credibility = 0.

Link title tags may help visually impaired people, though.

Lois

[SoftWareRevue]

Well then, the format it's in is likely just fine. :)

[writespeak]

Well then, the format it's in is likely just fine. :)

I suggest left-aligning the text. Having a jagged left margin makes for harder reading, and IMO it looks, er, messy. It's in contrast with the rest of this beautiful site. :)

I'd also like to see the titles left-aligned and perhaps bolded, like how the forum category titles are left-aligned above their descriptions.

But these are little things. It's a fact that jagged left margins slow down reading, but the text in this section is minimal.

Lois

[writespeak]

it took me 3 seconds to find it.

http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showthread.php?t=98646

Mikey, could you explain toplists for us? I'd thought it was just a directory, but it has a ranking system, by "in" and "out" hits. Questions:

- How do "in" hits work?
- Does toplists have any advantages over a directory other than the ranking system?
- What else can you tell us about it?

Thanks,
Lois

[Aussie Bob]

How do "in" hits work?
I think the more traffic you send "in" to FU, then the higher your link goes on the Toplists page. I think that's how the concept works. :iunno:
Does toplists have any advantages over a directory other than the ranking system?
The ranking system kind of is the advantage, as it rewards the sites listed, by the amount of traffic they sent to FU.

[SoftWareRevue]

Yeh. I look at it as, it's good for FU and it's good for the member.

Everybody wins! :party:

[SoftWareRevue]

Maybe we should consider having two top site pages.

One for Top Communities. One for Anything Else.

We could place more emphasis (and guidelines?) on Top Communities. And use the Anything Else one for members to list, well, anything else. :smooch:

[writespeak]

I think the more traffic you send "in" to FU, then the higher your link goes on the Toplists page. I think that's how the concept works.

So to have a site listed in Topsites, does the site listed need to have a link to this site? Probably not, but I'm checking.

If a listed site does link to this one, are you saying that the Topsites plugin (or whatever it is) can recognize that the hit is coming from a site listed in Topsites and will bump up the status of that link?

Is there anything in place to stop, for example, Dennis from clicking on the FU link every day to get it bumped up? :eek:

Thanks,
Lois

[writespeak]

We could place more emphasis (and guidelines?) on Top Communities. And use the Anything Else one for members to list, well, anything else. :smooch:

Do you mean for links to blogs, commercial sites, and so on? In addition to being able to link to them in sigs? Will they be ranked like the Topsites list, or will they just be in a directory? What do you think of setting a minimum post count before people can use it to prevent spammers from signing up just to add their links? Or having someone approve the links before they appear? Or both?

Have I asked all the necessary questions? :yak:

Lois

[SoftWareRevue]

So to have a site listed in Topsites, does the site listed need to have a link to this site? Probably not, but I'm checking.

If a listed site does link to this one, are you saying that the Topsites plugin (or whatever it is) can recognize that the hit is coming from a site listed in Topsites and will bump up the status of that link?

Is there anything in place to stop, for example, Dennis from clicking on the FU link every day to get it bumped up? :eek:

Thanks,
LoisSites are rated by how many times someone clicks an incoming link (that is supplied by the system) and lands here, at /topsite.php

The system only counts an IP once, no matter how many times that IP visits.

[Aussie Bob]

So to have a site listed in Topsites, does the site listed need to have a link to this site? Probably not, but I'm checking.
No, but if you don't link "in" to FU, your position on the Toplist goes down.
If a listed site does link to this one, are you saying that the Topsites plugin (or whatever it is) can recognize that the hit is coming from a site listed in Topsites and will bump up the status of that link?
Yep.
Is there anything in place to stop, for example, Dennis from clicking on the FU link every day to get it bumped up? :eek:
I'd reckon the IP would be cookied, to stop folks mass clicking etc.

I kinda like the concept. You're rewarded with a higher position on the FU Topsites list, if you send traffic FU's way. Like Dennis said, it's a win - win.

It's also another inbound link to your site, and they all help! :yippee:

[Aussie Bob]

Now this is wierd. My outbound link (http://www.forumuniversity.com/campus/out.php?id=5) on the Toplist page gives a 404 error. :eek2:

[writespeak]

Now this is wierd. My outbound link (http://www.forumuniversity.com/campus/out.php?id=5) on the Toplist page gives a 404 error. :eek2:

Did you see this when you entered the link?

Site URLs Must Start With http://

Lois

[writespeak]

No, but if you don't link "in" to FU, your position on the Toplist goes down.

Which provides incentive for people to link to FU. Got it. :)

I'd reckon the IP would be cookied, to stop folks mass clicking etc.

It wouldn't stop those who don't have static IPs.

I kinda like the concept. You're rewarded with a higher position on the FU Topsites list, if you send traffic FU's way. Like Dennis said, it's a win - win.

I like it too, as long as we can prevent misuse:

- Link clicking one's own link repeatedly
- Joining the forum just to enter links
- Promotional rather than factual descriptions
- Inappropriate language in the descriptions

If the list gets long, I'd like to be able to organize it into categories. Would we be able to have different Topsites categories?

Lois

[Aussie Bob]

Doh! :doh:

[Aussie Bob]

Which provides incentive for people to link to FU. Got it. :)
:banana2:
- Link clicking one's own link repeatedly
You can't do that, unless you've got some way around the IP/cookie thingie. I'd imagine there'd be safegaurds inplace to protect against that.
- Joining the forum just to enter links
Some probably will, but if they don't send traffic "in" to FU, their link is pushed to the bottom of the list.
- Promotional rather than factual descriptions
- Inappropriate language in the descriptions
Maybe a quick guide is needed, as to what's acceptable in the Toplist? Admins here would have access to edit that area anyways, so it's easily policed.
If the list gets long, I'd like to be able to organize it into categories. Would we be able to have different Topsites categories?
Not everything needs to be precicely organised/catagorised. :nonono:

Resist the temptation! Just let it run for a bit and see where it goes. She'll be right. :whistle:

[writespeak]

You can't do that, unless you've got some way around the IP/cookie thingie.

You probably can if you don't have a static IP. I'm just asking if there are safeguards to prevent this.

Some probably will, but if they don't send traffic "in" to FU, their link is pushed to the bottom of the list.

But do you want to see links for porn sites or buy-viagra-or-whatever-now.com on the list, even at the bottom? Again, I'm just asking about safeguards. I'm not suggesting that we scrap the idea just because we need to look at it carefully. :)

Resist the temptation! Just let it run for a bit and see where it goes. She'll be right. :whistle:

We won't need any organization at first. :) My question about organizing was for down the road, when we have 20+ links, or even 10+. One principle of editing is that whenever a list has more than 5-8 items, it should be broken into more than one list with category headings for readability. This is especially important online, where people skim and scan a lot. Long, unorganized lists look unprofessional. In addition, long, unorganized lists of links look like link farms with no consideration of how site visitors will use the page. :(

We are a university, right? We should have quality material here. :soapbox:

Lois

[Aussie Bob]

. . . But do you want to see links for porn sites or buy-viagra-or-whatever-now.com on the list, even at the bottom?
Well I don't need that stuff now, but you never know down the track. :rofl:

I'm sure the mods here will remove what's not appropriate. :uzi:

Now let us spend a few moments in dance - :banana2::dance::dancin::banana2:

[Aussie Bob]

IMO, I don't think the inbound links should go to the TopList page. They should redirect to the forum, or the main FU page. Landing on the Toplist page might give the wrong impression, of what FU is all about. :iunno:

[ldcdc]

Landing on the Toplist page might give the wrong impression, of what FU is all about.I can attest to that. In fact it took me a while to realise that it is the "Campus" link that leads to the actual forum. I was lost for a bit.

[SoftWareRevue]

Thanks.

Landing field has been updated. :tweety:

[Aussie Bob]

Great stuff. :D

Bah, WHT meany mods took away my "in" link, in my WHT sig. :atongue: :pullhair:

Boooooo. Poo poo meanies. :booty:

[Jan]

Landing on the Toplist page might give the wrong impression, of what FU is all about. :iunno:
I totally agree - tackiness at it's worst :S

[SoftWareRevue]

I'm not really sold on the Top Sites thing. But, I ain't un-sold either.

What's everyone else think?

[writespeak]

What's everyone else think?

You already know what I think. :yak:

But OK, you twisted my arm. I'll add more thoughts.

I like the idea of Topsites helping us with incoming links, which is more than we'd get with just a directory. If we can't avoid the potential problems I mentioned, though, I don't think it's worth it.

If all links have to be approved before they're posted, we can avoid most of the problems. The one I'm concerned about is that those without static IPs could click on their own links repeatedly. Perhaps it's worth taking that risk. Can you track the IPs of those who click on the links? If you can, maybe we could bump down or remove any links with repeated clicks from the same pool of IPs.

Personally, I see more problems than benefits with non-forum links in another category. Where would we stop? For example, I maintain several sites for other people and for groups. What's to stop people like me from adding links to them as well as to my own site(s)? The sites mostly cover topics that are relevant to specific audiences only. Their links here wouldn't benefit anyone except the site owners. Link farm, anyone?

We have sig space where we can link to our own sites. Our links are relevant there because they tell other people more about each member. That's enough IMO.

Next?

Lois

[Tyler]

I do believe this is the first time we've agreed upon something Lois :)

[Jan]

Top sites are fine for personal sites to get them a bit of a kick start, but I have my doubts that any which are looking at preofessionalism in the long run should use them. If you can find an existing, well run one for forums, then that might be a better way to go if you must rely on them for traffic.

:)

[writespeak]

I do believe this is the first time we've agreed upon something Lois :)

How did that one slip past? :ftag:

Actually, I hadn't known that we'd been disagreeing before. :erm:

Lois

[writespeak]

...if you must rely on them for traffic.

I don't think the idea of Topsites or a regular directory is for anyone to rely on it for traffic. A directory would offer these benefits:


Provide one more link for the listed forums (every link helps)
Create an FU resource of links where people can look at different forums to see how they work
Help us get more inbound traffic by giving this site another page of content and keywords


And maybe some other benefits that I haven't thought of. :)

Lois

[SoftWareRevue]

I like the idea of the traffic it would bring.

However, since we're FU, maybe we should lean in a different direction.

Maybe we should have a Featured Forum monthly.

We can give out a FUFFI (Forum University Featured Forum Interview) (hmmm . . . .interview ain't workin')

However, interview could be a focus of the fuffi.

We could interview forum administration and let them share how they started; any challenges they faced and overcame; any challenges they still face; what they see for the future of on line communities, etc. etc.

[SoftWareRevue]

Fuffi?!?

How about we hand out the Forum Univeristy Community Kudos?

Not sure how we'd shorten that though. :think:

[writespeak]

I like the idea of the traffic it would bring.

However, since we're FU, maybe we should lean in a different direction.

Why not lean both ways? We could have a controlled Topsites for forum links only, and we could have FUFFIs.

You might be going too far with that other award, though. :erm:

Lois

[Aussie Bob]

It is what it is - folks send traffic "in" to FU and they get a link displayed on the "FU Sighted Sites". The more traffic they send "in", the higher their "out" link is positioned. It's a - I help you and you help me. No need to take such a simple concept and unneccessarily complicate it. Sure, have guidelines and rules, but don't go crazy with it.

Also trying to maintain that page for forum only sites, is shortsighted. There's lots of webmaster/internet related sites out there, that wouldn't mind linking "in" to FU, for a return link back. Getting the word out there about FU will make for a more fluid and active community, unless you only want to keep it small.

Having the "in" page land on the main forum page, and not the TopLists page, is a step in the right direction. :)

[writespeak]

There's lots of webmaster/internet related sites out there, that wouldn't mind linking "in" to FU, for a return link back. Getting the word out there about FU will make for a more fluid and active community, unless you only want to keep it small.


That makes sense. I just don't want to see a free-for-all links section where we have links that aren't to forums or to sites relevant to forums.

Lois

[Aussie Bob]

Oh yeah, IMO you really need to keep it relevant to areas of webmaster/forums etc. We don't need jacks-viagra-sales.com in the list. :D :eek:

[SoftWareRevue]

Oh yeah, IMO you really need to keep it relevant to areas of webmaster/forums etc. We don't need jacks-viagra-sales.com in the list. :D :eek:Moderated links then?

[SoftWareRevue]

. . .

You might be going too far with that other award, though. :erm:

LoisMight be. :sickface: :nuts: :whistle:

[writespeak]

Moderated links then?

That was my vote from the beginning. :)

Lois

[Aussie Bob]

I think you'd have to moderate them anyways. :think:

[Tyler]

Agreed :)

[SoftWareRevue]

Well, then we can either re-code this hack (anyone know a coder?), or we can go with completely manual submissions by staff. Have a way for members to let us know what they want submitted, and if it's a Community, we submit it for them.

Any other thoughts?

[writespeak]

...or we can go with completely manual submissions by staff. Have a way for members to let us know what they want submitted, and if it's a Community, we submit it for them.

Excellent idea. :) We'd not only prevent spam and OT links from being added, but we'd also be able to edit descriptions if they read something like "u gotta see this forume!!!!!" or "ThisWonderfulForumSite.com -- home of the best place to dicuss blank, blank, and blank."

DMOZ editors check descriptions and edit them if necessary so that they provide information without promotional language, poor writing, or typos. This is why I suggested DMOZ-style descriptions earlier in this thread. DMOZ wants quality links with quality descriptions, and we don't need to aim for any less, do we? :fish:

Lois

[Aussie Bob]

. . . Any other thoughts?
I kinda liked the link swap thingie, as that would have meant more promotion for FU, but open to abuse. :think:

But a manual directory is ok. What kinda sites would you add there? Just forum/communtiy related sites?

[writespeak]

I kinda liked the link swap thingie

I think we'd still have that with the second idea that Dennis suggested. Instead of members entering their links and descriptions directly, they'd send them to someone who would screen and possibly edit them. We'd have the best of both worlds -- the benefits of Topsites reciprocal links, and a quality directory as a resource for this site. :)

Lois

[SoftWareRevue]

The Toplist is currently disabled.
It will be back after we set up some guidelines.The question is; trash it or set up some guidelines?

[Jan]

/me deposits to the memory bank.

[writespeak]

The question is; trash it or set up some guidelines?

Set up some guidelines and make it moderated (http://www.forumuniversity.com/campus/showthread.php?p=1395#post1395).

I thought we'd already established that we were going to do that, but maybe that was just wishful thinking on my part. :think:

Lois

[SoftWareRevue]

. . . What kinda sites would you add there? Just forum/communtiy related sites?I do believe so. :flirt:

[SoftWareRevue]

. . . I thought we'd already established that we were going to do that, but maybe that was just wishful thinking on my part. . .I think we just got distracted. :blush:

[SoftWareRevue]

Set up some guidelines and make it moderated (http://www.forumuniversity.com/campus/showthread.php?p=1395#post1395).
Maybe have a Submissions section within the forum? Or have them email topsites@fu?

Not that I'm lazy, but the less coding the better. :D

[writespeak]

Or have them email topsites@fu?

Not that I'm lazy, but the less coding the better. :D

I think a form would be better. If we put an email address online, we'll get spam for our efforts. I can set up a form for this purpose.

A small point...is it "Topsites" or "Toplist"? We should be consistent with the menu anchor text and the page name (e.g. topsites.php vs. toplist.php). Otherwise people will type the wrong name when they want to go directly to the page.

Since the list is currently at toplist.php, I'm calling it "Toplist" for now.

Here's my suggestion, which I've discussed with Dennis.

1. On the Toplist (http://www.forumuniversity.com/campus/toplist.php) page, have the list of sites, and then have an "Add site" link. We already have this. :)

2. On the "Add site" page, have something like this:


-----------------------------

Forum University Toplist is a directory of forums and sites that have content relevant to forums. Only FU members can submit links.

How Toplist works


You submit your link and site description.
FU staff checks that the link is suitable for the FU Topsites directory. If it is, we check and possibly edit the description, add it to the directory, and inform you.
You add a reciprocal link from your site to forumuniversity.com.
Site links change position on the list depending on how many times they're clicked by unique visitors AND by how many incoming hits come from each site linked to.


Site criteria

Sites accepted for the FU Toplist directory must fit this description:


Be a forum with content suitable for a general audience (we don't link to adult sites) OR have content that's highly relevant to forum managers and staff. Do not submit links to non-forum commercial sites, personal sites, or other sites that aren't forums or directly relevant to forums.
Be ready for the public. We do not link to "under construction" sites.


FU staff reserves the right to decide whether to include submitted sites in our Toplist directory.


Site submission

To submit your site, please fill in the form below.

[form fields here]
Site title (just the title, with no promotional language)

Site URL

Image URL (an optional image to appear next to your site link, maximum XXpx by XXpx)

Site description (objective, informative details; up to 50 words)

Your name *

Your email address *
[end form fields]

* These will not be published. We will contact you at the email address you provide after we've reviewed your site.

-----------------------------

This doesn't address how to confirm that the submitters are members. If we move the form to another page that you have to be logged in to access, we won't need to ask for names and email addresses.

Feedback?

Thanks,
Lois

[Scott]

That looks good, but I think it would be safer to go for a form which only members can see. This lets you keep track of who's sites are up there and who's submitting ones which shouldn't be allowed.

Once this is up and running, I think it'll be a good attraction...so long as it doesn't end up taking too much time moderating. :S

[writespeak]

I think it would be safer to go for a form which only members can see.

That's what I was thinking. Dennis, just checking...can we set it up so that everyone can see the Toplist and Add Site pages, but if people aren't logged in, they get a "You must be logged in" message when they click on "Submit Site" (or whatever we call the page with the submission form)?

Once this is up and running, I think it'll be a good attraction...so long as it doesn't end up taking too much time moderating. :S

It probably won't take much time. There'll be the initial setup time and sites submitted by current members, but after that, I imagine that we won't have a steady stream of submissions. Especially if only members can submit sites -- that'll cut down on spam. :)

Lois

[adb22791]

Maybe ask the author of the thread at vb.org? He's probably looking for new things to add to the hack.

[writespeak]

Maybe ask the author of the thread at vb.org?

Er, ask the author what? I thought it would probably be easy with vB to restrict views to those who are logged in. I know you can do that with member profiles, for example. I just don't know if a single page can be restricted to members only. Let's find out. :)

Lois

[SoftWareRevue]

I just updated the product today.

First thing is, it allows us to have ratings. Do we want to have ratings? (yes. the template needs tweakage if we keep it)

Further, all submissions are moderated.

Lois will receive emails when a new site is added.

What else do we need?

[writespeak]

I just updated the product today.

I see. :)

First thing is, it allows us to have ratings. Do we want to have ratings? (yes. the template needs tweakage if we keep it)

I have mixed feelings about that. Personally, I wouldn't rate a site at all if I didn't think it was good, but some people take pleasure in giving low ratings just for the sake of it. Look at the ratings at WHT Faces (http://www.whtfaces.com/) to see what I mean.

OTOH, we haven't had spam or other problems here, so we could try it and then remove the ratings if we have problems with them.

Will members have the option to disable ratings for their sites like you can at WHT Faces? I don't know if that would be a good idea here, but I thought I'd toss out the idea if it's feasible.

What else do we need?

We need an Add Site page with something like what I wrote a few posts earlier in this thread. When I click on Add Site when I'm not logged in, I get "You are not logged in or you do not have permission to access this page. This could be due to one of several reasons:" That's great that you can restrict the page, but I think that restriction should happen a page later. I'd like to see the explanation part accessible to everyone and only the Submit Site page restricted to logged-in members only.

Lois

[SoftWareRevue]

. . .We need an Add Site page . . .Whoops.

I created a new user group for you. :)

Emails (or PMs if you prefer) to approve new submissions are sent based on user groups.

I just didn't go back and give that group permission to view the page. :flirt:

[writespeak]

I just didn't go back and give that group permission to view the page. :flirt:

Yeah, that was another thing. I see you got to it before I could even mention it. ;)

But we're still missing the page between Toplist and Submit Site. It's the one with this content (http://www.forumuniversity.com/campus/showpost.php?p=2986&postcount=73) more or less (with a bit of tweaking to be done). If we have that page (at add_site.php?), people will know what Toplist is about and what types of sites should and shouldn't be submitted. The page after that one is the one that needs restricted permissions.

Thanks!

Do you want to call it Topsites or Toplist?

Lois

[Scott]

IMO, I think we should keep the ratings, if they become abused then disable them.

I agree with Lois, the intermediate page is pretty important to try and combat submissions which shouldn't be allowed. Perhaps I'm going to get shot for bringing this up, but I think the actual add site form could be cleaned up a little - maybe put it in a table so that it's not all over the place? Just my opinion :chairhide

Toplist sounds better than Topsite, or is that just me?

[spechackers]

it is interesting, and i would say this would be better for the members and as well as FU owners to get some traffic.

[SoftWareRevue]

But we're still missing the page between Toplist and Submit Site.

Do you want to call it Topsites or Toplist?Does it have to be another page?

Can it be on the same page with the add site form at the bottom?

TopList sounds good to me. What's everyone else think?

/me was trying to think of an F.U.

But the closest I could come is Forum Usher. And that just makes me picture a person more than a list. :bonk:

[Scott]

Does it have to be another page?

Can it be on the same page with the add site form at the bottom?

No, I don't see why it does, as long as it's visible.

Usher would make me think I was at a cinema or theatre -- anyone fancy putting on a show? :pink:

[writespeak]

Does it have to be another page?

Can it be on the same page with the add site form at the bottom?

The reason for having the form on a different page is that everyone should be able to view how Toplist works, but only logged-in members should be able to access the form.

TopList sounds good to me. What's everyone else think?

Either one sounds fine to me as long as we're consistent. :)

/me was trying to think of an F.U.

You don't want to wear out those initials, do you? :angel: If they stand for too many things, people won't know what they mean. :S

Lois

[writespeak]

Perhaps I'm going to get shot for bringing this up, but I think the actual add site form could be cleaned up a little - maybe put it in a table so that it's not all over the place? Just my opinion :chairhide

I'm with you on that one.

Dennis hasn't shot me yet for expressing my opinions, so I think we're safe. :peace:

Lois

[linux-tech]

Not sure if anyone's posted this or not, but the main page is one column short on the top and bottom. Template should read:
colspan="6"
instead of

colspan="5"


/me hides from the all knowing skin persons :P

[SoftWareRevue]

Thanks. Got it.

/me is skinning challenged :goggle:

[linux-tech]

Thanks. Got it.

Looks like you're still missing the top one, bottom one's fine now :P

[SoftWareRevue]

All I see is colspan=6

Not sure how much more clearer I can be than:

* SoftWareRevue is skinning challenged
So, I'll toss this to someone else. :ftag:





:smooch:

[linux-tech]

Your right, try this:
after

<td class="thead" width="50">Out</td>

add

<td class="thead" width="50">&nbsp;</td>

Should add that necessary column right after out.

[SoftWareRevue]

That got it.

Tanks. :tank: <<<< hmmm . . . no tank. :D

[SoftWareRevue]

. . . no tank. :DStill workin' on it.

I think we need to build a body now. :tread:

[Banana]

I added Insano Gfx to the topsite directory... who can I contact to add a logo for it?

[writespeak]

I added Insano Gfx to the topsite directory... who can I contact to add a logo for it?

Me. :wavey: Send me the URL via PM, and I'll add it. :)

Note the maximum image dimensions of 90px X 35px (W X H).

Lois

[Aussie Bob]

Hey, Topsites is back. w00t! :D

Now to come up with some evil scheme to send traffic to my topsites url. :think:

[Banana]

lol, so evil bob :)

[Brandon]

I added my site one night and I guess forgot about it the next day,, where can I get the code for the link to add on my site ?

[writespeak]

...where can I get the code for the link to add on my site ?

In your PM in-box. :)

Lois